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Re: Cola: Real-Time Shared Editing - Screencast

dida — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 08:49:26 -0000

Nice project!

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Franklin Garcia — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:09:47 -0000

I think it's a great idea for collaborating. But I see a little annoying be writing and suddenly where I was writing was moved a line below or to the right of the screen. I guess it will require some time to get used to it.

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baybora.oren — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:22:25 -0000

Nice project, thanks :)

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Dappes — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:42:02 -0000

Has Cola: Real-Time Shared Editing something to do Rational Team Concert based onJazz ?

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Dappes — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:41:44 -0000

Has Cola: Real-Time Shared Editing something to do Rational Team Concert based onJazz ?

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saerdnaer — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:51:51 -0000

there is also freeware for screencasting under osx availible: http://www.juniortan.com/Pu...

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Mustafa K. Isik — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:06:44 -0000

WRT taking away the conversation from [my] spectacular tandem programming exploits, no worries ... but exploits?

As for the rest of your comment, thanks for the laurels ;)

I understand that you feel a little lost with the many choices for screencasting software available for OS X. So did I. My favorite is Screenflow developed by Vara Software. IMHO it is easy and fun to use. It does exactly what I need it to do. I recorded the Cola screencast using the software.

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acodring — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:41:26 -0000

Sorry to take the conversation away from your spectacular tandem programming exploits, but I'd love to get a 'how to' post explaining how you recorded your screen and webcam for this. Even just the names of the tools used for real time capture and any editing tools used afterwards. Googling turns up a dizzying array of options and approaches!

I'm a new Mac convert and when it came time to figure out the best approach to screen capture I remembered watching your video many months ago and being very impressed with the quality and how nicely integrated the webcam is with normal on screen action. That you seem to have done it all in one take is just plain artistry!

I think a reply here will find me through Disqus, or I'm @acodring on twitter.

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Sri Sankaran — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:24:38 -0000

This is a very nice feature -- probably not for use all the time but great as a pair programming or code reviewing tool.

That said I am at a loss to get it working with my Eclipse 3.4. I have scoured the docs, the wikis and of course Google. I am told (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Doc... that ECF 2.2 includes a DocShare plug-in but I don't see it.

Not being able to try this is driving me crazy. Aaargh. I would appreciate it if you could point me the obvious ;-P

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Scott — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:13:46 -0000

FWIW, for workspace synchronization/sharing there is this enhancement request:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bu...

Please vote for this enhancement by adding yourself to the bug.

There is also this bug that may be causing the difficulties with getting the real-time shared editing to work

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bu...

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Mustafa K. Isik — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:45:07 -0000

Thank you for your reply and no hard feelings.

We are working on adding more features and improving ECF all the time - in our spare time. I sincerely hope that your experience with one of the upcoming releases proves to be a better one.

I suggest that you either follow my blog and/or Scott Lewis' ECF blog for future announcements.

As for the issue with using DocShare/Cola via various non-Google XMPP/Jabber servers, we have heard of similar issues. Even though this
might sound like us passing on the blame, it seems as if the problem is related to the different server software doing something "not right".

Scott looked closer into the issue and I am sure he'd be willing to help via the ecf mailing list, i.e. ecf-dev@eclipse.org Feel free to drop the list an email.

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youssef — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:31:06 -0000

Mustafa;
Thanks again for your reply and sorry if you feel offended by the link I posted. My intention was to show some of the issues we had ! Sorry again!
Plus, I don't really think the issues in ECF is related to Cola in particular, I have watched your talk in google and it was a great one !
Thanks for offering help, but we did tried Cola and it worked only with google accounts (not on our private Jabber) and it wasn't of much help because as you already said, it doesn't support sharing same files in same project !
Looking forward for a better ECF release next time.

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Mustafa K. Isik — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:16:25 -0000

Youssef,

Posting a link to a flamepost as you did borders on trolling - if it has not crossed that line already.

On the other hand it is also very revealing in that the screenshot coming with the post, shows that the two of you are not even using Cola. IMO you should use Cola before making such strong comments.

Since - for obvious reasons - I am passionate about ECF and Cola in particular, I wouldn't mind helping you guys out, but you have to give up what I perceive as hostile stance first.

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youssef — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:46:55 -0000

Thanks for your reply , though I think you guys should have said that clearly in the demos you are doing.
http://www.jroller.com/robw...

btw, atom feeds for comments in your blog is not working.

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Mustafa K. Isik — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:09:09 -0000

Youssef,

Too bad you are "really deeply" disappointed and can't engage in "REAL
pair programming".

Cola is the synchronization mechanism for DocShare and we are aware of
the feature you have implicitly suggested for latter component.

Thank you for your feedback.

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youssef — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:35:15 -0000

when I share document from my workspace with my colleague who has the same document in his workspace, it doesn't recognize that and it opens a new document for him !
This is really very deeply disappointing because we can't do REAL pair programming if we can't share files within the same project !

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Mustafa K. Isik — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:35:19 -0000

Hi Butch,

Thank you very much for letting me know and linking to a flickr photo
of the event.

The geek world is truly a cozy little village - a Barcamp Manila demo
of Cola is seriously cool ;)

--
Mustafa K. Isik

http://codesurgeonblog.com

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butchland — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:19:42 -0000

Hi Mustafa,

Just wanted to let you know I did a short 5 minute demo of COLA for the 1st Manila Bar Camp last August 21, 2008
(see http://www.flickr.com/photo... ). I think your project is one of the coolest
things I've seen in a while (which is why picked I it for my demo). Everybody there thought it was really cool as well. :)

Best regards,

Butch

PS. Thats me sitting down on a bean bag with my laptop with the screen on displayed on the projector, with
my co-editor sitting on the next room visible across a glass partition...

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magomarcelo — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:13:22 -0000

great, but definitely not new. What would really make the difference - even if I am mostly an Eclipse user - would be a joint effort to make this plugin interoperable with similar existing features in NetBeans (collab.netbeans.org) and maybe IDEA and others.

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Kevin Goslar — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:09:45 -0000

Good to see you involved in such an exciting project, Mustafa!! This could lead to enabling pair programming in distributed teams. Looking forward to it.

Greetings from Santa Monica,
Kevin

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kindkid — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:11:43 -0000

This is really exciting, any chance of integrating with a web service like http://collabedit.com/?

It'd be nice if I had Cola installed in eclipse, then I click to share with some web service. It sticks a URL in my paste buffer, which I paste into my friend's chat window. They open it up and start editing along with me from their web browser, without ever even firing eclipse on their end. I still get the syntax editing and code completion, they get the benefit of not having to install some software just to help me out for an hour. Just an idea. :)

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Juliano — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:01:07 -0000

Very interesting Mustafa!

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jpastore — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:12:22 -0000

We're having difficulty getting to function properly. We only got shared editor going only once. Also can we get this working with any editor or plugin? Is there a step by step guide for beginners to try and make this work?

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xolvo — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:30:48 -0000

it's a great project!!!

But...
Can you make an instruction how to use it. I try to use DocShare plugin, but it doesn't work
I'll very happy if you make spet-by-step instruction with pictures for Eclipse CDT 3.4

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Roaa Mohammed — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:08:04 -0000

I really like it, but let me ask about your internet connection speed that you were using in the video??
good job..